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847. GRANT, Ulysses S. Signed Photograph. A truly spectacular mounted albumen Signed “U.S. Grant Lt. Genl. U.S.A.” on the mount and bearing the inked credit (on the albumen) “Leon Van Loo Photo. Cinti. O.” Photograph measures 10 1/4 x 13 1/2″ on a 16 1/2 x 13 1/2″ mount. Light damp-stain to perimeter of mount, one area of toning in image, overall exceptionally rich, detailed, and fine. Pastedown label on verso with 12-cents in tax stamps notes that the piece was “From Leon Van Loo’s Photographic Gallery, No. 148 West Fourth St., bet. Race & Elm Cincinnati, O.” and goes on to list as “references” Salmon P. Chase and generals Hooker, Burnside, Rosecranz, Cox, Sturgis, and Kearnan.
We believe that General Grant had this portrait taken just weeks after he received his Lieutenant General’s commission from Lincoln on March 9, 1864 while in Washington. After a brief trip to Brandy Station to visit the headquarters of the Army of the Potomac, Grant traveled west to confer with Sherman and others making arrangements to turn over his command to Sherman and give direction for the 1864 campaign in the west. After Grant formally turned over his command to Sherman in Nashville on March 18, the two traveled together north to Cincinnati discussing the upcoming campaign. From Cincinnati, Grant arrived in Washington on the 23rd. It was during this final brief stay in Cincinnati that Grant most likely posed for Von Loo. The General’s Memoirs reveal no other trip west for the duration of the War. That would make this the earliest portrait taken of Grant after he was commissioned lieutenant general. (Otherwise, if not during this trip, this would date the photo to 1865-6, but we believe otherwise.)
This is the first example of this image we have ever encountered and to the best of our knowledge this portrait has never been published. Leon Van Loo (1841-1907) was a Belgian-born photographer raised in Italy and Brazil, he attended college in Ghent where he studied photography. His teacher led him to Cincinnati in 1858 where Van Loo opened a studio. He was active in this studio only to 1866 having amassed a small fortune in the cotton trade.
Though signed cartes of Grant come to the market, very few large format mounted albumens have appeared for sale. Those of comparable size and significance are extremely few
Christie’s: Forbes Sale, November 2002 ($12,000)
Swann’s: October 2000 ($12,000)
Christie’s: Schocket Sale, May 1994 ($13,000)
This is an exceptional rarity – a magnificent display piece with historical verve.
848. GRANT, Ulysses S. His signature “Confidential U.S. Grant” as President on a 8 x 4″ front panel of an interdepartmental envelope addressed in print to The Secretary of State, Washington, likely Hamilton Fish who served in that capacity for the majority of Grant’s two administrations. Light vertical crease, mounting remnant on verso, else fine. (Est. $700-900)
849. GRANT, Frederick D. (1850-1912) Military officer who served post-War with Sherman, Sheridan, and Custer. As a general, he served in the Spanish-American War. A.L.S. on a 5 x 3″ card, Governor’s Island, New York, Nov. 11, 1911 informing his correspondent that “I have no autographs of my father that I can spare for you, but it gives me pleasure to send you my own…” Very fine condition. (Est. $50-80)
850. (Nellie GRANT) An important and rare ninth-plate tintype of Nellie Grant (1855-1922), the only daughter of Ulysses S. Grant, with an unidentified friend standing in patriotic costumes made for her father’s 1868 election. The tintype was originally housed in her personal photo album beside a photo of Schuyler Colfax’s wife in a similar outfit. On the album page above this tintype, she wrote “Patriotic Dress for father’s election.” A very rare and unusual political photograph. One minor horizontal bend, image is a little dark (catalog picture brightened slightly) else very good. (Est. $300-500)
851. COLFAX, Schuyler. A.L.S. as Vice President, 1p. 5 x 8″, South Bend, Ind., Aug. 1, 1870 declining an invitation. Offered together with two examples of his franking signature, one being on the original transmittal envelope for the aforementioned A.L.S., together with a second franking signature on mounted address panel. Very good condition. Together, three pieces. (Est. $80-120)
852. WILSON, Henry. A.L.S. 2p. 8 x 10″, Ipswich, July 28, 1846 to Congressman Hezekiah Williams apologizing “in addressing you at this time, We the Democrats, want some Information from Washington, & not having any one of our own Party there from this Section, is the cause why I trouble you and also knowing you are one always willing to lend your aid…” The aid was over a Democrat light-house keeper who had been removed in place of a “W[h]ig”. Usual folds else very good. Together with an A.N.S. 1p. 6.5 x 8″, “Senate Chamber”, Dec. 24, 1855 acknowledging receipt of a note. Left margin chipped, folds, fine. Together, two (2) pieces. (Est. $80-100)
853. Autograph letter of an unknown member of the 4th Iowa Regiment, 6p. 8 x 10″, “near Vicksburg La. [sic]” Feb. 13-14, 1863 discussing the various casualties following the disastrous battle of Chickasaw Bluffs (Dec. 27-29, 1862) in which the 4th Iowa suffered 25% causalities when they attempted to hold a forward position under heavy fire with no reinforcements. He writes, in small part: “…You letter awakens anew the sad feelings we bear the noble and brave heroes we lost at Vicksburg while we were under the influence of ‘King Alcohal” [sic] (don’t be surprised for such was the case)…Robert Shields was severely injured internally by hiving his over coat Shot from off his shoulders…But he has returned…John A. Miller was struck on the shoulder with a fragment of a shell which nearly severed it from his body making an awful wound. Ellis was struck by a small piece of shell which passed through the leg just below the knee which severed the main artery causing death by bleeding…Wm Arnett was shot through the arm and the ball lodged in the body in the region of the lungs or a little lower and Baker shot through the Knee by a Minie ball…Feb. 14…There was some very heavy cannonading last night the cause of which I am not fully advised one report says that a Gun Boat and Some reports have that a little tug ran the Blockade. There is a detail of from fifty to a hundred men from our Regiment working on the Ditch There is a good deal of sickness among the troops here…but the health of this regiment is improving…We have four Hospital patients…I believe I have not written to you Since the accident of Garrison Shooting him self the next day after moving to this camp while he was cleaning his revolver it was accidentally fired the ball passing through himself leg entering just above the ancle [sic] on the back part of the leg and coming out at the anckle [sic] in front being almost through the anckle joint making a very severe wound and one that will be very painful. But the surgeon says that the bones are but little fractured and seem to think that they can save his foot…” The 4th Iowa marched under the command of William Sherman, who before he ordered the advance on the bluffs, commented to the division commander: “We will lose 5,000 men before we take Vicksburg, and we may as well lose them here as anywhere else.” Our correspondent however, blames the overall commander of the operation, U.S. Grant, for the blunder that cost so many lives. Great! (Est. $400-600)
854. (GRANT, Ulysses S.) BULLOCK, Alexander H. (1816-82) Governor of Massachusetts, 1866-82. A fine political content letter discussing the impeachment of Johnson and the hopes for Grant and Colfax in the upcoming election. In part: “…the country has been passing through the Impeachment Trial. I hope it is ended. here is another vote to be had on the remaining articles an the result will be known to you before you will receive this. It matters but little which way now it goes. The eyes of the country are turned from the past to the future from Johnson to Grant. The nomination of Grant and Colfax gives great delight in every part of the Union and their election is regarded as nearly certain. That will save u better than ten impeachments. With that election secured we shall bound forward in a glorious career of prosperity and renown. The south will be reconciled to the Union upon the principles of justice and equality under Grant. His name will be a tower of strength in the canvass, and his election (which I do not doubt) will be the panacea all our troubles. This I verily believe…” A few minor tears, else very good. (Est. $200-400)
855. (U.S. Grant – Battle of Belmont) An extremely scarce printed report of Brig. Gen. John A. McClernand, 5p. folio, Camp Cairo, Ill., Nov. 12, 1861 reporting on the failed attempt to capture the Confederate stronghold of Columbus, Kentucky, known as the “Gibraltar of the West”. The report, addressed to commanding General. U.S. Grant, details the attack on and destruction of Camp Belmont and the Union Army’s close escape form an attack on it’s rear: “…The enemy, at Columbus, seeing us in possession of his camp, directed upon us the fire of his heavy guns, but ranging too high, inflicted no injury. Information came at the same time of the crossing of heavy bodies of troops above us, amounting, as I since learn, to five regiments, which, joining those which had fled in that direction, formed rapidly in our rear with the design of cutting off our communication with our transports. To prevent this, and having fully accomplished the object of the expedition, I ordered Capt. Taylor to reverse his guns and open fire upon the enemy in his new position, which was done with great spirit and effect, breaking his line and opening our way by the main road…” It would not be until Grant captured Forts Donelson, Heiman, and Henry, which flanked Columbus, that the Confederates chose to evacuate “The Gibraltar of the West”. Top of pages affixed to one another, light folds, overall good… and RARE! (Est. $300-500)
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856. (FENIAN INVASION!) One of the odder international issues dogging the Grant Administration was the Fenian Movement. Numbering nearly 250,000 at their height, the Fenians planned to aid the Irish Revolutionary Brotherhood in a uprising against Great Britain. To this end, they established an “Irish Republic” in upstate New York going as far as to issue bonds in October, 1865. Not satisfied to merely set up an independent polity on the U.S.-Canadian Border, a splinter group known as the “Men of Action” staged raids into Canada. On June 1, 1866 the faction crossed the Niagara River and defeated Canadian troops at Fort Erie and promptly returned to Buffalo, N.Y. Offered here is a great broadside, an “Extra” issued by the Detroit Advertiser and Tribune, 4.25 x 17.5″, Friday, June 1, 1866 giving first accounts via telegraph of the Fenian incursion into Canada. The dispatches read in small part: “A force of Fenians left fort Erie this morning for Chippewa or Suspension Bridge, the latter point said to be their most probable destination. A collision is imminent at any hour in that direction, as our troops are approaching…Five hundred troops from Toronto, arrived at Dunnville, four miles from the mouth of Grand River, at 11 A.M. A constant stream of troops is pouring down the Buffalo & Lake Huron Railroad, from stations on that and the Grand Trunk line. The highest estimate of the number of the enemy at Fort Erie is 2,500. They have received no reinforcements since 7 A.M. As soon as a full concentration is effected, an attack on the enemy’s position at Fort Erie will be made. They are reported to have several places of light artillery in position…” Grant was not amused to say the least and U.S. troops promptly arrested the raiders and managed to prevent similar incursions into Canada at Frankfort, Vermont and Malone, New York. Those Fenians who were captured in Canada were treated as British subjects further souring U.S.-British relations that had already been under much strain during the Civil War. Following the failed invasion, the Fenian movement lost its wind. In 1867 they attempted to smuggle men and arms into Ireland via a ship which was captured by the British. Following the death of their leader, John O’Mahony, the movement virtually ended. Light creases, small dampstain at right, fine condition. Perhaps the only example extant… a special, albeit esoteric, document! (Est. $500-1,000)
857. Exceedingly rare carte photograph. Quite frankly there is the temptation to catalog this as “possibly unpublished” but we know better. Nonetheless, we could not find an example of this study ANYWHERE! Blank verso which might suggest by Gardner (note chair to left…looks like Gardner’s to us), titled mount, extremely fine condition. (Est. $600-800)
863. A scarce Grant CDV by Day & Wilson of Memphis. A portrait taken early in the War, c. 1861-1862, most probably as commander of the Army of West Tennessee. This possibly unpublished view shows Grant in a nearly full standing pose leaning on a chair. This albumen has some lightening in a decorative pattern believed from the board, else fine.
864. Ulysses S. Grant’s Philadelphia home during the Lincoln funeral, April 1865, by Macintosh of Newburyport. The General’s residence in that city is pictured adorned with mourning bunting and a bust of the slain President displayed in a second story window. An engraving of this building was pictured in Frank Leslie’s Illustrated Newspaper on February 25, 1865. That issue is captaioned: “MANSION RECENTLY PRESENTED BY CITIZENS OF PHILADELPHIA TO GEN. GRANT.” Quite a nice gift indeed! A scarce Lincoln mourning carte in excellent condition. (Est. $400-600)
865. “The losses have been heavy.” A great Taylor & Huntington stereoview: “General Grant’s Council of War.” Printed on verso: “This view shows a ‘Council of War’ in the field near Massaponax Church, Va., May 21, 1864. The pews or benches have been brought out under the trees, and the officers are gathered to discuss the sitution. It has been a disastrous day for the Union troops; the losses have been heavy, and nothing apparently gained. General Grant is bending over the bench looking over General Meade’s shoulder at a map which is held in Meade’s lap.” An excellent, scarce stereoview. (Est. $400-600)
866. Grant & Colfax 1868 Campaign Stereoview, George & Kidder, Watertown, Mass. Imprint. Stereoview of a building, most probably in Watertown, Massachusetts, with a “Grant Club” sign on the second floor of a tailor’s shop. In the center of the sign it reads “G & C” (Grant & Colfax). A fine early campaign image in support of Grant for his first term as President. Minor edge wear, else fine. (Est. $200-300)
867. Playing the race card in the 1872 campaign! Stereoview on yellow mount depicting seated mammy (a White person in blackface and wig) holding a Horace Greeley campaign fan, smiling coyly. The inference being that Black Americans favored Greeley in the presidential election of 1872. Published by M. M. Griswold of Washington, DC as part of their “Griswold’s Compositions” series. Pasted green label of another jobber, John F. Driscol, on reverse, along with contemporary inked inscription: “Any thing to beat Grant.” Excellent condition. Should appeal to Black-Americana collectors, “fans” of Horace Greeley and anyone who appreciates the truly outrageous in political paraphernalia! (Est. $300-400)
868. True 19th-century parlor entertainment! A hand-held stereoviewer from Joseph Bates of Boston, his company name impressed into the rosewood stand. This optical device holds in place an 1872 stereoview of a Massachusetts public square adorned with a large Grant and Wilson campaign flag. A great display item from the General’s reelection; the optical lenses remain clean. (Est. $150-200)
869. Two (2) great magic lantern slides housed in early wooden frames, both detailed with bright, vibrant colors. One presents the “Commander in Chief, U.S.” (partial printed legend on rim), the other shows Lee surrendering to Grant at Appomattox. They display quite nicely against a white background. (Est. $150-250)
870. Circa 1865 mounted albumen portrait of Ulysses Grant. The Union commander has one hand in his pocket, the other in his vest, and sports a mourning armband. 5 1/2 x 7 1/2″ on an 8 x 10″ mount, housed in a period frame. Light, typical age, displays well. (Est. $500-700)
871. U.S. Grant parian portrait vase, c. 1863. Superb 8″ parianware vase with profile images of Ulysses S. Grant on each side. Wonderfully crafted piece with grapes and grape leaves on each side, and hand-painted blue highlights around the portraits. Rarely do these pieces survive in this excellent state of preservation. (Est. $300-500)
873. Grant ferro pin USG-1868-65 brass shell 28mm. Portrait of Grant set in raised metallic frame with reeded rim, and silvered inner frame enclosing ferro. There is a small emulsion speck to the left of Grant image, otherwise in excellent condition. (Est. $300-350)
874. Ferrotype badge, similar to Sullivan-DeWitt USG-1868-123, 24 mm. with original pin. Contains a military portrait in a reeded copper frame, surrounded by a liner of impressed geometric designs, surrounded by a plain frame of silvered brass with reeded edge. The ferro emulsion is bubbling, but appears bold and striking when viewed head-on. (Est. $300-350)
876. Grant-Colfax silvered brass and gilt brass shell locket. Sullivan-DeWitt USG-1868-154. A nice specimen with mellow patina and good detail. Lacks suspension loop.
877. 1868 Grant campaign medal in bronze. Sullivan-DeWitt USG-1868-2, 60mm., engraved by Hugues Bovy of Geneva, Switzerland for the Swiss Republican Club. EF condition with a fine chocolate patina.
879. From the official Dedication of Grant’s Tomb, April 27, 1897. Silvered white metal, 35mm., affixed to red, white, and blue ribbon suspended from a bar & pin. A quite scarce keepsake from this celebratory interment that provided Groucho with years of fodder. (Actually, NO ONE is buried in Grant’s Tomb! Ulysses and Julia Dent are housed in above-ground sarcophagi… and not buried.) (Est. $150-200)
880. 2 x 7″ multicolored 1868 silk campaign ribbon for U. S. Grant. Printed in blue and red on golden colored silk with twill edging. It depicts a military bust of “Gen. U. S. Grant” above a seated figure of Lady Liberty with the quote “I will fight it out on this line &c.” Eagle hanger attached at top with red, white and blue tassels attached at the tip. In excellent condition with only a few small holes and wear near the top edges, not affecting the design or inscriptions. (Est. $400-500)
881. A 2 x 6″ woven silk ribbon commemorating Grant’s victories at Richmond, Vicksburg and Fort Donelson. In near pristine condition with hint of glue remnants at very top (barely visible) and crisp, vivid colors. (Est. $300-500)
882. A brightly colored woven silk ribbon, 2 x 10″ with blue tassel celebrating Grant’s 1865 capture of Richmond bearing an excellent bust portrait of Grant. Very minor glue mark at very top and at lower left, else near-pristine. (Est. $300-500)
883. Ten Grant portraits on cloth from the 1868 campaign! A 6 x 8″ swatch of repeat-pattern campaign textile with ten Grant likenesses “Let us make Peace. – U.S. Grant-First in Peace and first in War,” the popular campaign slogan used during his first run for the Presidency. A seldom offered political fabric that would display nicely. (Est. $300-500)
884. (Election of 1868) A wonderful and richly detailed (and quite racist) political cartoon attacking the candidacy of Ulysses S. Grant, 24 x 19″, published by Bromley & Co. of New York. Entitled “THE GREAT NOVEMBER CONTEST. Patriotism: versus Bummerism,” the cartoon shows Grant, Colfax, Seymour and Blair pulling wagons toward ‘victory’, here predestined to be the Democratic Ticket. We see Seymour and Blair pulling the Union wagon, whose passengers are Columbia, Spirit of the Constitution, and Abraham Lincoln while Grant and Colfax (represented as mules unlike the horses bearing Semour and Blair’s heads), pull a wagon carrying the radical Thaddeus Stevens, a female Negro, Salmon Chase and Death that is apparently headed toward the Salt River boat landing. Ben Butler carries up the rear attempting to push along Grant’s wagon, but they are blocked by rocks and skeletons representing “100,000,000 WHITE LIVES” billed as “THE PRICE OF NIGGER FREEDOM!” At the lower left we find Henry Ward Beecher and Horace Greeley running a shell and pea game and two former slaves wait for the Salt River boat. At the lower right a former slave sells boat tickets while at the top right we find a large body of freedmen celebrating. “Bummerism” is an archaic term which referred to either the act of being a bum or Union army stragglers who looted and pillaged without restraint. Here the latter definition is applied. Housed in an acid-free mat, 29 x 24″ overall. Light folds, some weak with only very minor loss, minor tears and a few fox spots, backed with archival paper for conservation , else very good. Overall, a clean and bright example. (Est. $800-1,000)
885. With Jeff Davis as a running-mate! Rare anti-Greeley “Ballot.” 3 1/2 x 5 1/2″, the first example we’ve seen. As detailed in the last issue of The Rail Splitter, this small paper ballot, is one in a series of pseudo-ballots of a satirical nature issued in the immediate post-Civil War years – the common denominator is the listing of Jefferson Davis as candidate for Vice-President. The chameleon Greeley started his political career as a Whig, became a Republican, than accepted the presidential nominations of the Liberal Republican and Democratic parties in 1872. In May 1867, he traveled to Richmond and posted a bail bond in the amount of $100,000 for ex-President Jefferson Davis, facilitating his release from confinement and generating a firestorm of controversy. This ballot may have been issued at that time to cash in on the maelstrom of criticism. Or, more likely in our minds, it is a partisan attack from the election of 1872. Apparently, anyone expressing any sympathy for the former Confederate chieftain, no matter what his former credentials as a staunch Republican and Unionist, became susceptible to this bit of political mud-slinging. It was common practice in the 19th-century for partisans to issue and distribute fraudulent ballots, either as a means to invalidate votes or to make a political statement. Regardless of motivation, quite a fun ephemeral item! (Est. $150-250)
886. A wonderfully elaborate 1868 Seymour and Blair ballot 5 1/2 x 12 3/4″, for Boston with the slogan “One Currency for All”. Also lists John Quincy Adams (1833-94) for Governor. Adams was the grandson of his namesake and ran unsuccessfully for Governor in 1868, 69 and 70. Detailed print on verso promotes the candidacy of Edwin C. Bailey for Congress. Tears repaired with tape on verso, chipping at bottom margin; together with an 1868 Grant ticket from New Hampshire, 3 1/4 x 5 1/4″. Small tear at bottom, else fine. Two (2) pieces. (Est. $100-150)
887. A good pair of election tickets for Grant both from New Hampshire, one 5 x 8″ from 1872, the other 3 x 5″ from 1868. Light toning, the larger example bears some marginal tears, else very good. (Est. $100-150)
888. A good 1868 campaign bio, Deacon Dye’s Life of Gen. U.S. Grant. (Philadelphia: Samuel Loag, Printer, 1868) 48p. 8vo., in titled pictorial wraps. Covers toned and soiled in places, front cover detached, else very good. (Est. $200-300)
889. A good set of 1872 campaign imprints including an anti-Grant diatribe, Speech of Hon. Charles Sumner…May 31, 1872 and subtitled at top: “Republicanism vs. Grantism. The Presidency a Trust; Not a Plaything and Perquisite”, (Washington: F. & J. Rives & Geo. A Bailey, 1872), 30p. 8vo. in titled wraps. To counter these claims we offer three “vindications”, two of which directly attack Sumner, including Speech of Hon. Matt. H. Carpenter…June 3, 1872 and Extract from the Speech of Hon. John A. Logan…June 3, 1872, both 8p. 8vo., and uncut. The third “vindication” is a statement of National Finances. A Vindication of Republican Statesmanship, Fidelity, and Economy. 8p. 8vo. offering statements demonstrating the successful reduction of the public debt under Grant’s tenure. Light scattered foxing usual folds, very good. Together, four (4) pieces. (Est. $100-150)
Great political Americana…
900. A pair of hand-written campaign songs-sheets for Ulysses S. Grant’s 1868 campaign, one titled “As Grant goes marching On!” and the other, “Ulysses is His Name”, both popular campaign songs by the noted lyricist Dexter Smith. Each song has been written onto legal folio sheets, likely for a campaign rally, each notes the underlying tune or “air”. “Ulysses is His Name”, one of Smith’s better known works, was sung to the tune of “Champagne Charlie” and reads in part: “There is a hero, great and brave, who nobly volunteered To lead our armies forth to save The land we’ve all revered; And now our arms are laid aside And Peace would fain be ours, We’ll ope[n] the doors of Union wide And crown his name with flowers…” The other song, “As Grant goes Marching On!” was to be (predictably) sung to the tune of “Glory, Hallelujah!” and reads in small part: “We’ll rally to the standard that we bore on the battle plain, We’ll fling the star-gemmed banner out for Union once again, We’ll show the world that Liberty has not been won in vain, As Grant goes marching on!…” Dexter Smith was a prolific writer during the 1860-70s providing lyrics for numerous popular tunes during the Civil War including “Follow the Drum”, “Hurrah for the Old Flag”, “Stand by the Banner of Columbia” and “Union and Liberty”. Light folds, else very fine condition. (Est. $300-500)
901. Illustrated sheet music, one “Lieutenant General Grant’s Grand March” (Philadelphia, Lee & Walker ,1862) and another version of the same tune published by Oliver Ditson of Boston. One bears a marginal tear, while both show minor toning, else very good.
Two (2) nice examples honoring the General!
902. Two pieces of 1868 Grant for president campaign sheet music. “Grant’s March to the White House” by D. S. Holmes of Brooklyn (disbound, nice cover graphics with view of White House). And “We”ll Fight It Out Here on the old Union Line” sung at the 1868 Republican National Convention by its composer, the Rev. John Hogarth Lozier of the 37th Indiana. Pub. in Chicago by Root & Cady with a presentation inscription and a faint autograph by Lozier at top. A very nice pair. (Est. $100-150)
903. A unengrossed printed invitation for dinner with “The President and Mrs. Grant” bearing an embossed “G” at top half. A neat, ephemeral item… the first we’ve encountered. We wonder what they would have served… perhaps his favorite desert (as detailed by a past White House historian), “creamy rice pudding.” A clean item – no doubt quite scarce. (Est. $100-200)
905. Personal Memoirs of U.S. Grant. (Charles L. Webster, NY: 1885) 2 vols., First edition. With 49 maps and illus., green cloth and gilt, 584 & 647p., a pleasing and solid set, only light shelf-wear confined to extremities. An important memoir of the Civil War, and the best thing that Grant ever wrote! General Schwartzkopf recently called this the finest memoir of war experiences ever penned. Collectible copies are becoming increasingly difficult to obtain; internet sets are priced at $500-800. This is a tight and quite clean set. (Est. $200-400)